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Matt Mcleod (7/8/2008)
Sam was not on the boat for those of you who might be interested.Hot damn. Now we've got the facts started. Matt, who was driving and who made the call? What does Sam think about the decision? And, thanks for letting us know.
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Bill Swick was running the boat. I don't know who made the final call. And I do agree that the fish should not be weighed
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Xanadu (7/8/2008)
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I will say this, GOOD job Sam and Crew. Screw the naysayers and the negitive posts. No, Murph. It was not a good job. I like Sam and all, but killing a non-tourney fish is stupid. If you ask him, he'll probably tell you it was a mistake and whatever deckie was measuring and telling them to kill the short fish ought to have his ass beat. In fact, there are numerous other tournaments where he would be banned for life for killing a non-tourney qualifying fish. And, if you're talking about naysayers and negative posts as those who don't think you should kill them for anything, I agree. But, if you're talking about those of us who think breaking the rules of a tournament are wrong, and then citing sportsmanship, then you and anyone who agrees with you are wrong. Killing a fish that doesn't qualify for the tourney is a reason to be disqualified. The PBGFC dockmaster should never have weighed the fish and Sam and the crew, imho, should never have showed up at the dock with a short fish. I admire them for showing up in public and taking their medicine because a short kill is not what they wanted to do. Better to be upfront like a man and take the DQ than behaving like that POS at Baypoint a few years back and toss it in the bay. There will be a discussion about the weiging of a short fish at our next meeting and I will report back as to what is said. Perhaps we could move this to a Tag and Release only with the exception of over 110 or something, but another short fish weighed in should result in a lifetime ban from the tourney and complete DQ from all categories. That is why we have rules, my friends. Here's another FACT....the "Game On" crew DIDN'T want that fish weighed, the dockmaster begged them to let the tourney weigh it for the crowd!!! You want to bring up something in your next meeting, bring up getting a new dockmaster. Oh yeah, he also wanted to keep the fish, thank god the crew told him no on that one. Scott
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| Okay...one last time since apparently many of the posters here are intellectually challenged by simple English comprehension and can't refrain from personal attacks. - I don't give a rats ass if the fish was legal or not and I have not accused anyone of taking short fish. - I don't care if the fish was tournament legal or not or if they got DQ'd. - I don't give a hoot about whether the crew "did the right thing" or not. - I don't give a crap if there was money on the line or not. In MY opinion, no one should be killing Marlin and the only time a Marlin should hit the deck is if it dies during the fight (which is most often due to extremely poor angling technique). That is all I am saying and all I have said through out this thread. And I will say no more. Harry
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dorado74 (7/9/2008)
Xanadu (7/8/2008)
Deeplines (7/8/2008)
I will say this, GOOD job Sam and Crew. Screw the naysayers and the negitive posts. No, Murph. It was not a good job. I like Sam and all, but killing a non-tourney fish is stupid. If you ask him, he'll probably tell you it was a mistake and whatever deckie was measuring and telling them to kill the short fish ought to have his ass beat. In fact, there are numerous other tournaments where he would be banned for life for killing a non-tourney qualifying fish. And, if you're talking about naysayers and negative posts as those who don't think you should kill them for anything, I agree. But, if you're talking about those of us who think breaking the rules of a tournament are wrong, and then citing sportsmanship, then you and anyone who agrees with you are wrong. Killing a fish that doesn't qualify for the tourney is a reason to be disqualified. The PBGFC dockmaster should never have weighed the fish and Sam and the crew, imho, should never have showed up at the dock with a short fish. I admire them for showing up in public and taking their medicine because a short kill is not what they wanted to do. Better to be upfront like a man and take the DQ than behaving like that POS at Baypoint a few years back and toss it in the bay. There will be a discussion about the weiging of a short fish at our next meeting and I will report back as to what is said. Perhaps we could move this to a Tag and Release only with the exception of over 110 or something, but another short fish weighed in should result in a lifetime ban from the tourney and complete DQ from all categories. That is why we have rules, my friends. Here's another FACT....the "Game On" crew DIDN'T want that fish weighed, the dockmaster begged them to let the tourney weigh it for the crowd!!! You want to bring up something in your next meeting, bring up getting a new dockmaster. Oh yeah, he also wanted to keep the fish, thank god the crew told him no on that one. Scott Is that first hand and accurate information? If so, please let me know. There will be a discussion about it at the next meeting and facts are very helpful.
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Harry Brosofsky (7/9/2008)
Okay...one last time since apparently many of the posters here are intellectually challenged by simple English comprehension and can't refrain from personal attacks. - I don't give a rats ass if the fish was legal or not and I have not accused anyone of taking short fish. - I don't care if the fish was tournament legal or not or if they got DQ'd. - I don't give a hoot about whether the crew "did the right thing" or not. - I don't give a crap if there was money on the line or not. In MY opinion, no one should be killing Marlin and the only time a Marlin should hit the deck is if it dies during the fight (which is most often due to TOO SMALL TACKLE FOR THE JOB). That is all I am saying and all I have said through out this thread. And I will say no more. Harry FIXT.
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nothing to dicuss the fish was over 99inches.... if the fish would have been 2 or whatever inches bigger they would been heroes!!! whats the difference in killing one 2 inches bigger they are both gonna wind up dead in a tournament at least they brought it back to the dock some folks dont even bother to do that!!!!
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Xanadu (7/8/2008)
Deeplines (7/8/2008)
I will say this, GOOD job Sam and Crew. Screw the naysayers and the negitive posts. No, Murph. It was not a good job. I like Sam and all, but killing a non-tourney fish is stupid. If you ask him, he'll probably tell you it was a mistake and whatever deckie was measuring and telling them to kill the short fish ought to have his ass beat. In fact, there are numerous other tournaments where he would be banned for life for killing a non-tourney qualifying fish. And, if you're talking about naysayers and negative posts as those who don't think you should kill them for anything, I agree. But, if you're talking about those of us who think breaking the rules of a tournament are wrong, and then citing sportsmanship, then you and anyone who agrees with you are wrong. Killing a fish that doesn't qualify for the tourney is a reason to be disqualified. The PBGFC dockmaster should never have weighed the fish and Sam and the crew, imho, should never have showed up at the dock with a short fish. I admire them for showing up in public and taking their medicine because a short kill is not what they wanted to do. Better to be upfront like a man and take the DQ than behaving like that POS at Baypoint a few years back and toss it in the bay. There will be a discussion about the weiging of a short fish at our next meeting and I will report back as to what is said. Perhaps we could move this to a Tag and Release only with the exception of over 110 or something, but another short fish weighed in should result in a lifetime ban from the tourney and complete DQ from all categories. That is why we have rules, my friends. well written 
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| Do we have these same issues when someone kills a bluefin? So far I have seen maybe 5 posts where someone caught a bluefin, each time they are killed. That's like 5 Bluefin in the 8 or so years watching this forum and everytime they are killed. To the best of my knowledge they are killed for the money because those things can be sold to the japanese for a ton of cash. They seem to be an extremely rare occurance and yet each time they are killed. Why doesn't anyone complain when those are whacked for the cash? Oh, and there is another way to kill an apex predator....kill all of his food sources.....by killing more and more of the "lesser" species you are probably doing as much harm as killing them boatside. I was just on a charter that had the potential to catch one of these, had it been me I'd have wanted to keep it. It would have been 1 and maybe my only chance to catch and kill one to eat. I guess I don't understand how it's senseless killing in this instance, but it's not senseless killing when you catch one just to see it jump and the challenge of getting to tag it. Quite frankly just because it swims off doesn't mean that the fish lives. Each of you fishing for them may have killed one or more and for nothing more than getting to see the fight. Is that really any more noble or have any more purpose than the guy that thinks it might make it at a tournament?
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| Great job on the catch it is what it is and in the past. Reading this whole thread has made my head hurt and some may need to take some aderol. I thought that one of my friends had very bad ADD but no thats not the case anymore.
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Xanadu (7/9/2008)
dorado74 (7/9/2008)
Xanadu (7/8/2008)
Deeplines (7/8/2008)
I will say this, GOOD job Sam and Crew. Screw the naysayers and the negitive posts. No, Murph. It was not a good job. I like Sam and all, but killing a non-tourney fish is stupid. If you ask him, he'll probably tell you it was a mistake and whatever deckie was measuring and telling them to kill the short fish ought to have his ass beat. In fact, there are numerous other tournaments where he would be banned for life for killing a non-tourney qualifying fish. And, if you're talking about naysayers and negative posts as those who don't think you should kill them for anything, I agree. But, if you're talking about those of us who think breaking the rules of a tournament are wrong, and then citing sportsmanship, then you and anyone who agrees with you are wrong. Killing a fish that doesn't qualify for the tourney is a reason to be disqualified. The PBGFC dockmaster should never have weighed the fish and Sam and the crew, imho, should never have showed up at the dock with a short fish. I admire them for showing up in public and taking their medicine because a short kill is not what they wanted to do. Better to be upfront like a man and take the DQ than behaving like that POS at Baypoint a few years back and toss it in the bay. There will be a discussion about the weiging of a short fish at our next meeting and I will report back as to what is said. Perhaps we could move this to a Tag and Release only with the exception of over 110 or something, but another short fish weighed in should result in a lifetime ban from the tourney and complete DQ from all categories. That is why we have rules, my friends. Here's another FACT....the "Game On" crew DIDN'T want that fish weighed, the dockmaster begged them to let the tourney weigh it for the crowd!!! You want to bring up something in your next meeting, bring up getting a new dockmaster. Oh yeah, he also wanted to keep the fish, thank god the crew told him no on that one. Scott Is that first hand and accurate information? If so, please let me know. There will be a discussion about it at the next meeting and facts are very helpful. Xanadu, I was standing right beside the man when he asked if they could weigh it anyway. My cousin is the one who caught it and he told me that they were not going to weigh the fish after it didn't measure. The whole time they were being "held" outside the breakwater for a larger crowd to gather, I was on the phone with the boat. So, yes it is indeed first hand an very acurate information.
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Harry Brosofsky (7/8/2008)
My only complaint is against ANY marlin being taken, especially just for the sake of money and a trophy. Harry
Great-nobody cares anymore. If you don't want to kill a marlin, then don't. But I'll gladly wave at you when I'm standing next to a dead one at the scales. I think it's downright low to belittle someone on their kill though.
Midnight Run (7/8/2008)
harry I have a bag full of smoked marlin sitting right here that is off that fish so i dont want to hear that it was killed just for money and it is so good too 
Jeff, I may have stopped by a certain popular fishing hangout yesterday with a certain forum member and had some of this smoked marlin you speak of and it skyrocketed to my #2 favorite fish OF ALL TIME. I may start killin em' just so I can eat em from now on-I mean, that's the one of the main reasons we fish and hunt anyways, right? To put meat on the table for our families?
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| Woody your not going to kill anything, heck I've never even seen you kill a deer or a bass on your own place............... Course if you want to take me along, I'd be happy to document when you do start slinging steel 
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If someone wants to weigh a Blue Marlin make sure the mouth is wrapped shut. Think about lost weight. Blue Marlin White Marlin
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brnbser (7/9/2008)
Woody your not going to kill anything, heck I've never even seen you kill a deer or a bass on your own place............... Course if you want to take me along, I'd be happy to document when you do start slinging steel
Scott I would put you out of the job if we went head to head on gaffing ANYTHING-especially your precious little snake king macks!. Speaking of bass though, I caught a dandy the other day around 2 in the afternoon. Actually 4 of em in a 30 minute period, all over 3-4 pounds. Not bad for midday heat. So seeing as how I am in Pensacola at least once a week and just 34 minutes away the rest of the week, what is your excuse for not having met up with me this summer yet?
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Scott I freegaff tripletails while doing 8.5 knots by a weedline...
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| bs, not possible with those short little gaffs and big hooks ya'll use, now it might be feasable with the 10 and 12'er we use on those snake kings, besides, I prefer my shoulder to reamin in it's socket we'll be at the marina tonight if your off - with cheap beer for ya.
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Woody, do you know what any of those fish even look like???
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| Woody has to go back into work at 5pm Scott.
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| The Blue Hoo...i do not know if you are aware but you are breaking the regulations when you "FREEGAFF" trippletail. They have to be taken by hook and line only. Maybe you were having to chase him down because he was spooling your reel! Maybe you are just pulling our legs... tight lines
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Capt Wes, I just hope there's half this much fuss when I die!
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Matt Mcleod (7/9/2008)
Capt Wes, I just hope there's half this much fuss when I die!
Eheh...you ain't kiddin'.
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matt mcleod you gave me the o brother when this thread first started. at this point i am with you brother! yall give it a rest.
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| capt matt...if you go before me...i will make sure i fuss you as big as them flounders and reds you are catching oh keep posting i think i have just about zeroed you in on location... tight lines
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| Captain Wes, You don't have to guess where he's fishin, call me and I'll tell ya! Chris
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| Chris, Matt, and Wes should be "Hot Spots" together, three legs to the tripod.........hahahah To the "Game On" THANKS AGAIN for killing that fish. It taste so damn good. 
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Is it finally over? WOW!!!!!!!
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