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No, dumbass.... This is a response to redneckersons claim all those 14-18 kids are the best anglers around. I dissagree. I KNOW I am not the best. I still try to learn something new everyday.
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Downtime2 (5/10/2008) Yep...a bunch of 14-18 year old kids are gonna teach me alot about fishing. Yessir, you right. See em' all the time out there showing people how to wire a bill, pull a big grouper loose, catching 40+ pound dolphin. Yep, I stand corrected. They are GODS!!! Just ask em'.....So I guess you know everything there is to know about fishing...There are fishermen in that age range who fish the pier that have done all those things and will show you if you don't believe it. That statement and others like it are uncalled for, your trying to prove your better than people you don't even know and have never seen fish, maybe you need to stop and think about what your saying before you post. Oh, and it's only uncalled for because *gasp* it wasn't a pier fishing kid who said it.....
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401 Cay (5/10/2008) One thing that strikes me consistantly when people talk about cobia fishing the pier, is the competition between anglers out there. The whole first shot bullshit and pushing and shoving. When most people fish cobia on a boat.. it doesnt matter who catches the fish.. THE WHOLE BOAT CATCHES THE FISH! U dont have to call first shot in the tower.. someone throws.. someone drives, someone gaffs.. its teamwork. At the end of the day everyone goes home with a share of the fish. It is, after all, supposed to be fun, right? I think its insane that someone cant take their kid out to the pier.. walk to the end, and watch for fish like everyone else without being shoved, pushed out of the way etc. For that matter though.. I would just as soon that the group of rude, full contact pier fisherman stay on the pier, because I definately dont want to contend with their bullshit antics on a boat. I am sure the 80% of pier fisherman that are out there for fun are sick of it too.. As far as that crowd of young punks goes.. its a shame you took something like fishing and turned it into a venue to threaten people, talk shit and generally be a nuissance. You guys may as well leave the rods at home because you missed the whole point.are you joking????? i've been fishing out there for about 6 years.... usually 4-5 times a week and have never seen someone pushed out of the way!... this crap is just like a good fish story... you see one little thing and the thing blows up beyond proportion... this is my last post on this thread because 90% of the people that posted don't have a clue what they are talking about. good day! Wow, you must be on crack or something out there cause whenever i go on the pier people literally run over each other. All you pier rats (not everyone) but a lot of you think you own the pier. I dont even bother going to the pier anymore except for spanish like once a month cause of all the jerkoffs that think they can do whatever they want cause they go to the pier a lot. I have seen people be PUSHED out of the way and rods practically broken so i dont know what your talking about that you haven't seen anyone pushed out of the way ever. All of you who think the pier is yours quit pissing in your pants and grow up.
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buncha boat drivers!?????? ok, call me an elitist, but my definition of an angler... is some one who casts a rod to catch fish...but you go ahead. though,call yourself aaaaaa fisherman, or captain, or wireman etc. Ill take a mate who can get the job DONE!

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I'm impressed. Shocked. I had no idea who I was dealing with. I'll take my place in back of the room with the rest of the rookies and pay attention to you self professed GODS of fishing. I never knew how clueless I was about how to fish. Thank you! Thank you oh great experts!!! To learn and kow it all before 21, why couldn't I be so blessed?!?!?
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| buncha boat drivers!?????? ok, call me an elitist, but my definition of an angler... is some one who casts a rod to catch fish...but you go ahead. though,call yourself aaaaaa fisherman, or captain, or wireman etc. Ill take a mate who can get the job DONE! According to this little feller, long as you can cast a spinning rod, you da' shits. Nothing else matters. Oh, and by the way, I have run a deck a many a day. Spare me that shit too.
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Oh, far as age? 47 I paid my dues. Don't need little kids, (younger than mine) trying to tell me how friggin' special they are to fishing because they fish the pier. I got respect for those that earn it.
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| That is the attitude you and your little buddies emanate. So, yes, I will call ya'll out. This whole ordeal is over casting at a vessel. And I quote...and stand by it... Guy went to the pier to weigh a fish. Called and got "permission". It was good enough for "Jerry", why not the rest of you? Granted, I'd weighed it elsewhere, too much trouble to pull in that close to an object bobbing around. But, I get tired of the "I am GOD...I fish on the pier!!" attitude. I got news for you, not that I would put myself in that position, but, you hit me or mine with a jig....I promise, you ain't walking home on your own power. Period. Ya'll spout alot of threats. You got the easy part done....running that mouth. Got anything else???? Ya'll talk alot of shit. Be careful, they is always someone willing to put up rather than shut up.... I have read about how you are better anglers, you prowess with a rod, how ya'll will gang up on people, how you want to piss on people.... I get tired of it. It's all wolf calls to me, don't mean shit. Just words. Deeds go a hell of alot farther. I strive to do the best I can every day. I got where I am working at it, not "Daddys money". You honestly think because you can cast a rod good it makes you knowledgeable?
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No, you have no patience from ignorance....
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I'm done too. Ya'll just don't get it. Youth and stupidity, it'll pass.....
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"No, dumbass.... This is a response to redneckersons claim all those 14-18 kids are the best anglers around. I dissagree. I KNOW I am not the best. I still try to learn something new everyday"??????????????????// Im 53,..... head |

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53 and a dickhead? Cool!!
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| Wait a second why were you going to get a beer anyways, I didn't think you could drink and boat?
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And mister downtime any time you want to take me billfishing i can show you some things that are badass, not everyone on the pier is a compete dumbass i've been taught alot about billfishing by one of my friends in Costa rica so think before you call all of us no fish catching mother f 'ers
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Downtime2 (5/10/2008) That is the attitude you and your little buddies emanate. So, yes, I will call ya'll out. This whole ordeal is over casting at a vessel. And I quote...and stand by it...
Guy went to the pier to weigh a fish. Called and got "permission". It was good enough for "Jerry", why not the rest of you? Granted, I'd weighed it elsewhere, too much trouble to pull in that close to an object bobbing around. But, I get tired of the "I am GOD...I fish on the pier!!" attitude. I got news for you, not that I would put myself in that position, but, you hit me or mine with a jig....I promise, you ain't walking home on your own power. Period. Ya'll spout alot of threats. You got the easy part done....running that mouth. Got anything else????Ya'll talk alot of shit. Be careful, they is always someone willing to put up rather than shut up....
I have read about how you are better anglers, you prowess with a rod, how ya'll will gang up on people, how you want to piss on people.... I get tired of it. It's all wolf calls to me, don't mean shit. Just words. Deeds go a hell of alot farther. I strive to do the best I can every day. I got where I am working at it, not "Daddys money". You honestly think because you can cast a rod good it makes you knowledgeable?
Keyboards should really come with a breath-alizer. Some of you fine fisherman need to climb out of your bottle.
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JHOGUE (5/10/2008) And mister downtime any time you want to take me billfishing i can show you some things that are badass, not everyone on the pier is a compete dumbass i've been taught alot about billfishing by one of my friends in Costa rica so think before you call all of us no fish catching mother f 'ersThis is what I was talking about "Daddys money"... BTW...I'm sober...just bored...
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This is absolutely rediculous. The post was about a cobia that was caught and a mistake that was made by both parties. But over the last 7 pages it has become a pissing contest between pier and boat anglers.
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401 Cay (5/10/2008) One thing that strikes me consistantly when people talk about cobia fishing the pier, is the competition between anglers out there. The whole first shot bullshit and pushing and shoving. When most people fish cobia on a boat.. it doesnt matter who catches the fish.. THE WHOLE BOAT CATCHES THE FISH! U dont have to call first shot in the tower.. someone throws.. someone drives, someone gaffs.. its teamwork. At the end of the day everyone goes home with a share of the fish. It is, after all, supposed to be fun, right? I think its insane that someone cant take their kid out to the pier.. walk to the end, and watch for fish like everyone else without being shoved, pushed out of the way etc. For that matter though.. I would just as soon that the group of rude, full contact pier fisherman stay on the pier, because I definately dont want to contend with their bullshit antics on a boat. I am sure the 80% of pier fisherman that are out there for fun are sick of it too.. As far as that crowd of young punks goes.. its a shame you took something like fishing and turned it into a venue to threaten people, talk shit and generally be a nuissance. You guys may as well leave the rods at home because you missed the whole point.are you joking????? i've been fishing out there for about 6 years.... usually 4-5 times a week and have never seen someone pushed out of the way!... this crap is just like a good fish story... you see one little thing and the thing blows up beyond proportion... this is my last post on this thread because 90% of the people that posted don't have a clue what they are talking about. good day! hahahaha ive seen plenty of people ran over during cobia and king season.. lots of yelling and cussing at people that are just in the wrong place at the wrong time,,,, but also dont know the ins and outs of pier fishing.. but they still dont deserve to get treated like shit cuz theyre not natural pro pier fishermen(rats) if a hurricane wouldnt mess up innocent peoples lives and destroy are economy even worse than it already is, id like to see the pier turned into a inshore reef
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im a boater and im pier fisherman...you guys that say the pier is dangerous its not sense. the only thing ive seen wrong at the pier will be a little cursing. there are no fights pushing ect. i would hold a 100$ bill to say that your ppl that are saying bad things about the pier have put your children in more crude or danger in your own homes. the pensacola beach pier is right next to a sherriff station do you think somebody is going to get in to a fight or brawl ect on that pier i dont think so. and if they do and your the victom then that would be a damn good place to get asaulted. but this wont change your outlook on likeing boat fishing than pier fishing and thats fine. but when knock it and dont even give it a chance then maybe your being the royal idiot...
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Downtime2 (5/10/2008) No, dumbass.... This is a response to redneckersons claim all those 14-18 kids are the best anglers around. I dissagree. I KNOW I am not the best. I still try to learn something new everyday.
Why did you need to go calling me a dumbass?? does it make you feel better about yourself?? callin people names over the internet is real cool you should be proud of that one...
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Downtime2 (5/10/2008) No, dumbass.... This is a response to redneckersons claim all those 14-18 kids are the best anglers around. I dissagree. I KNOW I am not the best. I still try to learn something new everyday.Why did you need to go calling me a dumbass?? does it make you feel better about yourself?? callin people names over the internet is real cool you should be proud of that one... tyler just remember it only takes money or own and use a boat...
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JHOGUE (5/10/2008) And mister downtime any time you want to take me billfishing i can show you some things that are badass, not everyone on the pier is a compete dumbass i've been taught alot about billfishing by one of my friends in Costa rica so think before you call all of us no fish catching mother f 'ersThis is what I was talking about "Daddys money"... BTW...I'm sober...just bored... Dam your just the f-ing man no i've never been to costa rica never even caught a billfish but i have sat back and watched people for many years , i guess you can't belive there might be somebody else in this world that is good at fishing to..... will you teach o' great one! i really and turly can't name any thing my dad bought for me my bad ass truck umm no! well there is my three van staals nope i bought them all my custom rods....negitive all my tackle...no not im working to jobs to pay for my shit so shut your ass up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yall should drop it...FACT is they wouldnt of hit your boat because if they wanted to they could of...I think yall are pathetic messing with a bunch of kids..these kids put in more time and fish harder and better then any of you talking smack do...yall are just mad because youve been wasting gas money all year when these guys are consistently catching good fish off the pier..Yall need to GROW UP and stop putting these guys down calling them cocksuckers and crackheads..The fact is ive never seen anybody injured or boat hit with jigs from the pier..So why dont yall go to Walmart get some gotchas and STAY in the pass catching spanish away from us..
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Dylan (5/11/2008) Yall should drop it...FACT is they wouldnt of hit your boat because if they wanted to they could of...I think yall are pathetic messing with a bunch of kids..these kids put in more time and fish harder and better then any of you talking smack do...yall are just mad because youve been wasting gas money all year when these guys are consistently catching good fish off the pier..Yall need to GROW UP and stop putting these guys down calling them cocksuckers and crackheads..The fact is ive never seen anybody injured or boat hit with jigs from the pier..So why dont yall go to Walmart get some gotchas and STAY in the pass catching spanish away from us..they put in plenty of time cause they are kids with bad attitudes and no jobs.. maybe delivering pizza or slingin burgers a couple times a week to pay for the jigs they sling at boats(haha j/k) but i dont think ive ever called em cocksuckers... wait a min, maybe i did.lol i just think they should do a lil growin up and calm down. i remember goin to the pier when i was lil and the guys fishing would hook fish and let me bring them in.. i wouldnt even think of bringin my kids to the pier now.. that place is T R A S H ! ! ! Pcola Pier Motto - - "catch the fish at all costs, even if it involves trampling elderly and infants, and if you get a chance sling a couple cuss words and cobe jigs"hahaha  oh in fact, doesnt outcast and GGBT sell gotchas... wow and your perfect pier might sell them too... in fact maybe me and a few of my friends might grab our gotchas and come to the T to do some spanish fishing later this weekend.. guaranteed no words, but kind ones, will come our way... but not because you dont want to give us hell just cuz i know you wont have the balls! we'll try not to cross your precious king lines but if we happen to, every other cast, sorry in advance
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Dylan (5/11/2008) Yall should drop it...FACT is they wouldnt of hit your boat because if they wanted to they could of...I think yall are pathetic messing with a bunch of kids..these kids put in more time and fish harder and better then any of you talking smack do...yall are just mad because youve been wasting gas money all year when these guys are consistently catching good fish off the pier..Yall need to GROW UP and stop putting these guys down calling them cocksuckers and crackheads..The fact is ive never seen anybody injured or boat hit with jigs from the pier..So why dont yall go to Walmart get some gotchas and STAY in the pass catching spanish away from us..they put in plenty of time cause they are kids with bad attitudes and no jobs.. maybe delivering pizza or slingin burgers a couple times a week to pay for the jigs they sling at boats(haha j/k) but i dont think ive ever called em cocksuckers... wait a min, maybe i did.lol i just think they should do a lil growin up and calm down. i remember goin to the pier when i was lil and the guys fishing would hook fish and let me bring them in.. i wouldnt even think of bringin my kids to the pier now.. that place is T R A S H ! ! ! Pcola Pier Motto - - "catch the fish at all costs, even if it involves trampling elderly and infants, and if you get a chance sling a couple cuss words and cobe jigs"hahaha  oh in fact, doesnt outcast and GGBT sell gotchas... wow and your perfect pier might sell them too... in fact maybe me and a few of my friends might grab our gotchas and come to the T to do some spanish fishing later this weekend.. guaranteed no words, but kind ones, will come our way... but not because you dont want to give us hell just cuz i know you wont have the balls! we'll try not to cross your precious king lines but if we happen to, every other cast, sorry in advance they wont say anything they will just cut your line...thank you come again.
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| I don't get involved in this stuff but damn, some of these stupid comments. Non of this stuff is directed to pier fisherman. It is directed to the complete asswipes who did, or condone, casting a jig at, or "warning" shots with the jig "around" the boat. And not cuz your pier fishers, I got the same to say if it was another boat that would do this. Number one Luke Crooke. You say everybody got so and sos back on that pier? Let me tell you somethin, and this is all hypothetical of course. If someone throws somethin dangerous at my boat, and I go to confront that person (confront means stomp a mudhole in him, break his back, dislocate his shoulder, and piss down his throat. Not every fights like your lil school yard fights, some fight for keeps), and a bunch of other people run up to save his ass, cuz like you say..you all got each others back....well there is one impotant thing your little mind should remember.... I or anybody else in that situation may have 16 of my damn friends with me too to have my back, every last one of em a hollow point with one ridin dirty in the chamber, and 15 more in the clip. In case after the first one of you dumb asses that comes runnin with a raised fist to do me great bodily harm drops the rest dont get the picture, then maybe after another 15 you will. You gotta remember, you make a person feel threatened, with a whole bunch of you tuff asses suroundin him, thats when people rely on there friends. So you start talkin about a pier full of hoodlums that all got each others back, you may need a lil educatin. All hypothetical of course. I have seen that bad ass ganster talk plenty, and I have seen people bunch together, thinkin there hardcore and will kick anybodys ass. Then I seen them scatter like bitches when JUST ONE of em gets ther skull split open to the white meat, and a big spreading pool of sticky blood, and the rest realize that it was a cool thing to talk about being harcore, but when ones half dead, its kinda scary, and you just wanna get outta there quick, and maybe the ganster wanna be life aint the life for you? And anybody on the pier or anywhere else, If I EVER for WHATEVER reason, out of gas, drifted, emergency, or to weigh a fricken cobia, get closer than you think I should to your pier, if you lob ANYTHING at me, or even near me purposly, you will not be safe, on the pier, or with as many friends as you want. If you put me in harms way, I will personally f**k your world up. Yes, it would of been smarter and more considerate for the dude not to pull up to the pier. So report him or whatever, but that does not excuse lobbing jigs near him, nor any jackasses condoning it. And David H, you did try and downplay there "childish display". Skulls Mcnasty said it perfect, hes a good shot, any problems with him lobbing gun shots a few yards away from sombody who irritated him? Wouldn't it just be "childish displays"? And I have been on the pier, and there WERE some asses trying to lob jigs as far as they could at boats. Maybe the boats were wrong, and too close, I don't know what the distance is, but that is NO EXCUSE for that. That is as ignorant as me lobbing glass bottles out my rear truck window to a cars winshield that I felt was following "too close". And I am sure that the dudes account was tru, because tmass already admitted that the dude tried to pay him $150 to tell him who lobbed the jigs. To all of you who condone it, and all of you getting on here getting all riled up with your "come out the end and see, we a bunch a bad asses" shit talk, what a bunch of bitch ass ass wipes. Your spineless little punks. If we were in the joint I would make you do my laundry, wear your ass out and pass you around to all my friends, and then probably trade you off for a carton of Kools on the yard. You aint hard. And before you start, yeah you all are better fisherman than me, cuz I can't catch shit, even though thats got nothin to do with lobbin lead at a person. Bitches.
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So is it bloods or crypts on the pier?
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